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The new 2015 Zero's have just been announced, the models themselves remain unchanged, the components however do not.

for 2015 Zero adds some significant content to its repertoire. Try this on, new Pirelli rubber all round, proper Showa suspension, ABS from Bosch and a 10% bump in battery capacity.

base pricing of Zero's four models is fairly affordable and for sure a LiveWire target.

Zero DS ($13,345), Zero S ($13,345), Zero SR ($17,345), & Zero FX ($9,845).

Livewire out the door at $15K, yea that will work...
 

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That seems like a pretty reasonable price to me as well. The Zero FX is really reasonable, but that makes me think that that bike probably has very little range. Do we know what the range is on these things?
 

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That seems like a pretty reasonable price to me as well. The Zero FX is really reasonable, but that makes me think that that bike probably has very little range. Do we know what the range is on these things?
At worst the Zero DS gets 100 miles in the city, and that's good enough for the average commute. At least with that you can commute too and from the office and then much more.
 

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Show me the person who thinks that they are going to take their electric motorcycle on a cross country road trip anyway. That is maybe what the future holds but at this point electric motorcycles should be seen as city bikes and commute bikes depending on how far your commute is.
 

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That is the eventual goal though. You want to have an electric bike be no different than a gas powered bike. I think that it may have more to do with infrastructure than capability at a certain point.
 

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Do you think that Zero's goal is to remain an expensive up market brand, or do they eventually want to bring down the price of their bikes so that they can sell them to the mass market?
 

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Show me the person who thinks that they are going to take their electric motorcycle on a cross country road trip anyway. That is maybe what the future holds but at this point electric motorcycles should be seen as city bikes and commute bikes depending on how far your commute is.
No one mentioned that for an obvious reason ;)

As the infrastructure develops for electric vehicles we'll see that become more of a practical thing, for now and for a while it won't happen.
 

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That is the eventual goal though. You want to have an electric bike be no different than a gas powered bike. I think that it may have more to do with infrastructure than capability at a certain point.
how much are you willing to pay per gallon of electricity? you'll see infrastructure then...
 

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won't there be companies like tesla that have free charging stations, or is that just limited to tesla owners?
 

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Hopefully they will have a standard charger so that you don't have to drive around looking for the one that matches your car or bike. Hopefully the car ones are compatible with bikes too.
 

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I don't think the chargers are standard now so there will have to be some big symposium to get that together. Look at the phone industry. Chargers there aren't standardized.
 

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What ever happens they can't be stupid enough to make charging an issue, simple process that they shouldn't hopefully mess up. It might be time to look more into charging types and availability of them on the vehicle it's self and at charging stations home and on the go.
 

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I think that charging infrastructure and standardization is a big issue actually. Until there is an agreement, we have a bunch of companies working on their own version of a charger.
 

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I don't think the chargers are standard now so there will have to be some big symposium to get that together. Look at the phone industry. Chargers there aren't standardized.
but gasoline nozzles are. I've said it many times, in order for the technology/behaviour to be legitimized and accepted into habit it needs to mimic the current system.
 
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