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Guys,
I'm having doubts.... the documentation on the EVSE says the input is only 120V, but the tag on the cable of the EVSE says input 120/240 with 12/16 amps...
I tripped all 15amps breaker in the location I am in so I am hooked with an extension on the microwave outlet which is 20Amps.

now... if the EVSE can really be plugged in a 220amps, that would mean I could hook into the exterior 220outlet for EV chargers. but is it? which to I believe? the book or the Label on the EVSE cable?

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I regret I don't have an answer for you, and I'm puzzled too.

I have charged a LW with both OEM and HD approved-modified car cables, with 220-240V household current, also via an e-bicycle free charging socket, and also a Level 2 charger which the LW obviously scaled down to level I; all without any difficulties (so far). It does not seem to me likely that HD would supply different EVSEs and cables to different parts of the world.

Also, maybe I'm drawing a long bow here, but looking at the LWs that rode the length of South America, they would have been charging in some very dodgy situations.

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A couple of weeks ago I sent a polite request to HD headquarters asking for clarification on charging via a inverter-equipped 15 amp-rated generator as a backup to electricity in my shed.

Would be nice as others have said here, if a Harley representative would take an interest in this forum as we are pretty much all great supporters of the LiveWire and the HD e-brand.
 

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Allright, if for some of you it can help, here is the item I bought which saved me.
in the parking lots, the owners have Oven 220volts connectors for level 2 EV chargers.
I bought this: 4-Prong 220-Volt Plug to 120-Volt 15/20Amp Female Adapter Power Cord for Household (4-Prong 14-50 Outlet to (4) Household W/Breaker) : Amazon.ca: Tools & Home Improvement

a 220V 4 prong adapter to 4 120V outlets.
Since the 220V is a double 40 amps breaker, each side of the 120V adaptor has it’s own built in 20amp breaker in which I connect my EVSE. Problem solved for me!!!
My only remaining problem is the EVSE which does NOT lock with the included insert… has anybody succeeded in locking the EVSE?
 

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I regret I don't have an answer for you, and I'm puzzled too.

I have charged a LW with both OEM and HD approved-modified car cables, with 220-240V household current, also via an e-bicycle free charging socket, and also a Level 2 charger which the LW obviously scaled down to level I; all without any difficulties (so far). It does not seem to me likely that HD would supply different EVSEs and cables to different parts of the world.

Also, maybe I'm drawing a long bow here, but looking at the LWs that rode the length of South America, they would have been charging in some very dodgy situations.

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A couple of weeks ago I sent a polite request to HD headquarters asking for clarification on charging via a inverter-equipped 15 amp-rated generator as a backup to electricity in my shed.

Would be nice as others have said here, if a Harley representative would take an interest in this forum as we are pretty much all great supporters of the LiveWire and the HD e-brand.
Whats the HD HQ email? I try to email the customer care and got a reply of my case not capture. The dealer that I bought the bike from is not helping.
 

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My problème really was cheap breakers that pop too easily, the EVSE charges the bike just fine but trips the external breakers which are 15 amps on the weak sides as they trop way too soon. .
 

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Indeed, the only place it does not work is on both external 120V outlet at my girlfriend’s place :) i hooked an extension to the microwave 20 Amps circuit and it had worked :)
 

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Whats the HD HQ email? I try to email the customer care and got a reply of my case not capture. The dealer that I bought the bike from is not helping.
[email protected]

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"Harley-Davidson Corporate Headquarters Address: 3700 W. Juneau Avenue, Milwaukee, WI 53208. You may send your queries or complaints and also your suggestions or feedback at this address. You can get in touch with corporate office on this phone number 1-414-342-4680"

(UPDATED OCTOBER 27, 2020)
 

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Forgive me if I’m “beating a dead horse”, you and the others, my have this stuff already figured out.
And I am by no means an electrical expert nor a LiveWire expert, in order words you should verify this information, and please correct me if this info is wrong.
As far as I know, normally the J-1772 connector puts out 240V AC, which the Livewire has to be able to accept or you would not be able to charge on a Level-1 (AC) Commercial / Public Charger. Again as far as I know, the OBC (On Board Charger) will only use 120V, so it doesn’t matter 120V AC or 240V AC, the OBC will only charge at the 120V AC Level -1 rate.
I know this has been covered before, but if the circuit you plug into has a breaker that will handle the Amps required, but there are other loads on the same circuit breaker which when combined with the Livewire’s OBC exceeds the breakers amperage, then obviously the breaker will throw.
Below is a photo of a 2020 Livewire OBC, the label states: Input 90-275Vac ~ 16.5A Max. So if the circuit can’t handle that you could have problems.

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Forgive me if I’m “beating a dead horse”, you and the others, my have this stuff already figured out.
And I am by no means an electrical expert nor a LiveWire expert, in order words you should verify this information, and please correct me if this info is wrong.
As far as I know, normally the J-1772 connector puts out 240V AC, which the Livewire has to be able to accept or you would not be able to charge on a Level-1 (AC) Commercial / Public Charger. Again as far as I know, the OBC (On Board Charger) will only use 120V, so it doesn’t matter 120V AC or 240V AC, the OBC will only charge at the 120V AC Level -1 rate.
I know this has been covered before, but if the circuit you plug into has a breaker that will handle the Amps required, but there are other loads on the same circuit breaker which when combined with the Livewire’s OBC exceeds the breakers amperage, then obviously the breaker will throw.
Below is a photo of a 2020 Livewire OBC, the label states: Input 90-275Vac ~ 16.5A Max. So if the circuit can’t handle that you could have problems.

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OBC normally will automatically accept any voltage and amp. It will still convert it into DC of 200-300v depending on the BMC (Battery Management Controller) and stay at max claim of 1.3kw. In other word it's only pulling 10amp on a 120v line max or 5amp on a 240v line. Hardly it will trip anything even if it sharing the same MCB with others.
 

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Thank you NoPipeCommuter for making it simple. I believe “You are correct sir”,
120V x 10A = 1200W and 240v x 5A = 1200W. As the OBC label states: Output: 1260W Continuous.
So either 120V or 240V the OBC will only charge at 1200W.
If the circuit you are charging on has 120V at the outlet, a good 15A breaker with everything wired correctly and the combined load on the circuit does not exceed 15A, you should be good, if not then you need to check the breaker, wire and wire connections, outlet and outlet contacts.
Again please correct any errors.
 
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