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Thanks!

I don't have Reddit, but I'll answer anything Ican.

That white in the pic is just the reflection of a big LED light on the far side of the bike. The bottom of that seat tray is still stock black.
 

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Gorgeous wheels. I am a big fan of carbon fiber wheels, just not for the street. My past experience with CF wheels has not been good. They don't survive potholes very well and given the weight of the LW, the potholes are even less kind.

For those truly considering them for the street, this sort of sums up the experience I had with them once but not quite such a bad outcome as this motojournalist (but close).

 

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Some riders canbe hard on their gear, can't they! A shame to seewheels abused like that.

On the other hand, I have several friends with many street miles on BSt wheel on bikes somewhat heavier than the Livewire, without problems. I'm looking forward to getting more road miles on these, before the track!
 

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My take away was a bit different. I don't think he was necessarily hard on his equipment. I think this is the key passage: "Standing there in disbelief, scanning the scene in its entirety, it finally dawned on me, including the Sheriffs who had just pulled up, as to what had caused the crash. My precious carbon fiber wheel had exploded without warning.
There was no oil. No wmd’s. No rocks or sand in the road. Only an arcing trail of carbon fiber littering the turn behind my bike, tracing the undesirable path I had flailed moments prior. My brakes weren’t dragging. There were no skid marks on the pavement (perhaps my underwear after that), except for where my rear sprocket had dug into the asphalt right before my lunar launch. The carbon fiber had downright failed midway through that turn and the violent bucking and weaving was each spline successively breaking as the rim held on for dear life inside the swingarm. "

I this passage is very sage advice as well.
"I highly recommend that if you decide to run them yourself, that you are absolutely vigilant with your inspection routine. Look for cracks and blemishes along the surface and check for tight wheel bearings fastidiously. Scan for any signs of structural imperfections and when in doubt, contact the manufacturer immediately with pictures and questions. Make thorough wheel inspections part of your pre-ride safety check as if your life depends on it. Because it does."

My thoughts are I had personally had a CF wheel that cracked from a hard impact and then a chunk came out. I'll take bending over a crack and a chunk coming out any day on the street. Lastly you can't easily see when microscopic cracks form. Over time things can impact the layer below the protective surface layer and cause issues unseen. For the street I'm not willing to take the risk anymore, or I'd just treat them as a "consumable or wear item" and replace them every year to be safe.

YMMV as well as your risk tolerance. I subscribe to the maxim I learned in flight school many years ago; there and old pilot, and there are bold pilots, but there are no old bold pilots.

Enjoy your new wheels, they look awesome.
 

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At the end of the day, it is everyone's call based on their risk tolerance. As I like to tell my eldest son "you do you." Having almost had my arm amputated due to a catastrophic failure on a motorcycle, I am always balancing the risk/reward aspect of everything I do.

I like materials that bend rather than break for street use. That is one of the reasons why police cruisers are typically easy to tell as they have steel wheels. They'll survive impacts a lot better and just bend.
 

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Curious how much total weight you are down from stock?
IDK

I've pulled off all the stock turn signals, rear fender and supports, and some of the belt guards. That and the nominal 10 lbs from the wheels brings it down a bit.

I may lose the passenger pegs. And I do take off the headlight on the track.

But there really isn't a lot that can be shed to lose weight. And, I'm not really focused on weight reduction
 
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