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How many Harley Livewire bikes
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This may have been asked before so I apologize in advance.
Does anyone actually know the total number of Harley Davidson Livewire motorcycles were made before they ended things and it switched over to the Livewire One.
Just thought it might be interesting to know the actual number of bikes out there
Would also be interesting to know how many of each color were made
I would imagine that there were more black bikes, then orange, then yellow but that is just a guess
Anyone know the numbers
Thanks
Bill Kemp
PS: Here is a rare 1980 Honda CBX 1050 that I acquired from an estate. Apparently they only made about 24,000 of these in the 4 years of production and they are getting harder and harder to find. Mine had 8,300 km on it when I bought it. I did a tune up on the 6 cylinder engine, fully disassembled the carbs for a rebuild, set all the 24 valves to spec, and carb synced the bike. It runs as smooth as silk and is a rocket ship for a bike from the 1980's.
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This may have been asked before so I apologize in advance.
Does anyone actually know the total number of Harley Davidson Livewire motorcycles were made before they ended things and it switched over to the Livewire One.
Just thought it might be interesting to know the actual number of bikes out there
Would also be interesting to know how many of each color were made
I would imagine that there were more black bikes, then orange, then yellow but that is just a guess
Anyone know the numbers
Thanks
Bill Kemp
PS: Here is a rare 1980 Honda CBX 1050 that I acquired from an estate. Apparently they only made about 24,000 of these in the 4 years of production and they are getting harder and harder to find. Mine had 8,300 km on it when I bought it. I did a tune up on the 6 cylinder engine, fully disassembled the carbs for a rebuild, set all the 24 valves to spec, and carb synced the bike. It runs as smooth as silk and is a rocket ship for a bike from the 1980's.
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Thanks. I do love the bike but having 6 cylinders it is a thirsty one
These numbers are kept very quite. The last I remember seeing is something like 3500 total bikes including the livewires.
HD Customer Support said HD produced a total of 2291 "XA" Livewires. (This is not an official production number, but it is from a phonecon with HD Customer Support.)
Livewire Group reported that it sold 1058 Livewires in 2021 and 2022, however that number includes carryover HD international sales of HD branded LIvewires. So if you subtract out the international bikes which would be "XA" VINs, Livewire sold 695 bikes directly to customers and to independent dealers in 2021 and 2022.
So, the total number of XA+XB Livewires produced through 2022 should be about 2986. This doesn't include any 2023 production. And, this number would include test and demo bikes and motorcycles that may still be on dealer floors.
Livewire Group reported that it sold 1058 Livewires in 2021 and 2022, however that number includes carryover HD international sales of HD branded LIvewires. So if you subtract out the international bikes which would be "XA" VINs, Livewire sold 695 bikes directly to customers and to independent dealers in 2021 and 2022.
So, the total number of XA+XB Livewires produced through 2022 should be about 2986. This doesn't include any 2023 production. And, this number would include test and demo bikes and motorcycles that may still be on dealer floors.
Wow. Thanks for the great update
So you are looking at approximately 3000 bikes in total
Not that many really
So you are looking at approximately 3000 bikes in total
Not that many really
No doubt based on the lower pricing of the LW1 and DelMar Harley must've concluded that the disappointing sales were due at least in part to the initial pricing.
For sure! I think that turned off a lot of buyers. I know I was supper excited when I first heard about it and then watching Long Way Up just solidified it for me but when I saw the price of a new one I put it out of my mind it was cost prohibitive for me. I had to wait for a used one.No doubt based on the lower pricing of the LW1 and DelMar Harley must've concluded that the disappointing sales were due at least in part to the initial pricing.
In regards to the initial price of the HD Livewire. I was late in the game in regards to the bikes. I did not hear of the Livewire during production and even at the launch of the bikes.
I own a number of Vintage Honda bikes.
1980 CM400A
1975 CB550K
1975 CB750K
1980 CBX 1050
When I was watching some videos about motorcycles I stumbled upon the Livewire in a video and loved it from that moment. However I heard about the price in Canada being $39,000 plus taxes etc and gasped. I put it out of my mind.
Then the following season I saw some on kijiji listed by some dealers. I contacted one and took a test drive and loved the bike.
Fast forward a few months later and my father in law needed to downsize his HUGE heavy Harley touring bike for a smaller (somewhat) fatboy. After he took delivery of it and my wife saw how I praised him on the purchase she made a comment to me on the drive home.
She said if you really like the Harley my dad bought why don't you get one for yourself. I replied that the ONLY Harley I would buy is the Livewire as I thought it was great.
So she told me to buy it then and the hunt was on.
I was kind of taken by the Orange Fuse colour but no one around me (Ontario) had one. I located one in BC at a dealership. It had 65 km on it. The original owner had many bikes and bought it brand new. He traded it in having ridden it only a few times.
So I bought it and had it shipped to the nearest HD dealership near me (Pfaff) and picked it up after they did a safety inspection on it.
Purchase price was $21,000. Canadian
Shipping $1000 from BC to Ontario
Safety inspection $130
Taxes to register the bike 13% on purchase price $2730
Total for the bike in Canadian $24,860
That is $20,000 less than the original asking price of $39,000 + 5,070 taxes = $44,070 Canadian
It came with the remaining 2 year warranty which expires in May so now I have to decide if I should get an extended warranty on the bike
I hope that helps out people for pricing a used bike.
Bill
I own a number of Vintage Honda bikes.
1980 CM400A
1975 CB550K
1975 CB750K
1980 CBX 1050
When I was watching some videos about motorcycles I stumbled upon the Livewire in a video and loved it from that moment. However I heard about the price in Canada being $39,000 plus taxes etc and gasped. I put it out of my mind.
Then the following season I saw some on kijiji listed by some dealers. I contacted one and took a test drive and loved the bike.
Fast forward a few months later and my father in law needed to downsize his HUGE heavy Harley touring bike for a smaller (somewhat) fatboy. After he took delivery of it and my wife saw how I praised him on the purchase she made a comment to me on the drive home.
She said if you really like the Harley my dad bought why don't you get one for yourself. I replied that the ONLY Harley I would buy is the Livewire as I thought it was great.
So she told me to buy it then and the hunt was on.
I was kind of taken by the Orange Fuse colour but no one around me (Ontario) had one. I located one in BC at a dealership. It had 65 km on it. The original owner had many bikes and bought it brand new. He traded it in having ridden it only a few times.
So I bought it and had it shipped to the nearest HD dealership near me (Pfaff) and picked it up after they did a safety inspection on it.
Purchase price was $21,000. Canadian
Shipping $1000 from BC to Ontario
Safety inspection $130
Taxes to register the bike 13% on purchase price $2730
Total for the bike in Canadian $24,860
That is $20,000 less than the original asking price of $39,000 + 5,070 taxes = $44,070 Canadian
It came with the remaining 2 year warranty which expires in May so now I have to decide if I should get an extended warranty on the bike
I hope that helps out people for pricing a used bike.
Bill
I think it wasn't pricing but lack of commitment from HD. They needed to eat a bit more of the cost and push more out on long term loans. The short test rides impressed reviewers but they all whined about the range. HD didn't get that people had to live with it to understand it. There should have been 40 longer term loan bikes with the press and youtubers. 30 day demos. It was dumb to assume people would get it. They could have probably even have pulled that higher price off. They needed to really pressurize dealers to understand it was going to be a different group of buyers. HD mgt blew it. Remains to be seen if LW mgt can fix it. I am not confident of that yet. This was a huge opportunity and they are still kinda blowing it. They need to look at the new riders they want and understand what would make them excited about the platform. Instead some amazing people built a great bike for a company that has been trying to put itself out of business for 40 years.
Similar story for me. I found one in Montreal on Kijiji at the Ducati dealer and bought it without actually taking one for a test drive.In regards to the initial price of the HD Livewire. I was late in the game in regards to the bikes. I did not hear of the Livewire during production and even at the launch of the bikes.
I own a number of Vintage Honda bikes.
1980 CM400A
1975 CB550K
1975 CB750K
1980 CBX 1050
When I was watching some videos about motorcycles I stumbled upon the Livewire in a video and loved it from that moment. However I heard about the price in Canada being $39,000 plus taxes etc and gasped. I put it out of my mind.
Then the following season I saw some on kijiji listed by some dealers. I contacted one and took a test drive and loved the bike.
Fast forward a few months later and my father in law needed to downsize his HUGE heavy Harley touring bike for a smaller (somewhat) fatboy. After he took delivery of it and my wife saw how I praised him on the purchase she made a comment to me on the drive home.
She said if you really like the Harley my dad bought why don't you get one for yourself. I replied that the ONLY Harley I would buy is the Livewire as I thought it was great.
So she told me to buy it then and the hunt was on.
I was kind of taken by the Orange Fuse colour but no one around me (Ontario) had one. I located one in BC at a dealership. It had 65 km on it. The original owner had many bikes and bought it brand new. He traded it in having ridden it only a few times.
So I bought it and had it shipped to the nearest HD dealership near me (Pfaff) and picked it up after they did a safety inspection on it.
Purchase price was $21,000. Canadian
Shipping $1000 from BC to Ontario
Safety inspection $130
Taxes to register the bike 13% on purchase price $2730
Total for the bike in Canadian $24,860
That is $20,000 less than the original asking price of $39,000 + 5,070 taxes = $44,070 Canadian
It came with the remaining 2 year warranty which expires in May so now I have to decide if I should get an extended warranty on the bike
I hope that helps out people for pricing a used bike.
Bill
PP $17,995
Shipping Montreal to NS $428
NS Safety Inspection $17
Taxes in NS 15%
Bought the 3 year extended warranty as well. $1600
Mine had 3400kms on it and came with about $2000 in extras, Low profile seat, grips, lever, passenger seat cover and a few other things.
Super happy with the purchase.
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