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Did you guys get the email?

More than just a motorcycle, LiveWire® has been redefining electric since 2019, delivering the best experience for the urban rider, with personality and soul.

As an early adopter, you have been on this journey with us. Thank you for your commitment to LiveWire and for pioneering the future of motorcycling.

The next chapter in the LiveWire journey begins now.

Today, Harley-Davidson is announcing the launch of LiveWire as an all-electric motorcycle brand. We are seizing the opportunity to lead and define the market in EV with the mission to be the most desirable electric motorcycle brand in the world. LiveWire will pioneer the future of motorcycling, for the pursuit of urban adventure and beyond.

Our commitment to you as a current owner is that you will now be supported by the LiveWire brand and will have the continued support of the Harley-Davidson® dealer network.

We are very excited about the journey ahead and will have more news to share with you as we launch the first LiveWire branded motorcycle on July 8, 2021.

Thank you for choosing LiveWire.
 

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Can’t tell if this is a bad or good thing.
Anyone remember Buell? HD does not have the money to fully commit to EV. This is just a way to separate the EV segment from the ICE segment at HD. HD has not said how much money will be committed to EV. This is a good way to separate now and hope it takes off or for an investor group to buy it.
 

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It's definitely a curious move indeed. But a first in it's own right. Having Harley Davidson state a promise to support us and share thanks for our being the initial investors in it's EV line are the parts I like. As for what comes of it, we'll see. I liken trust to hope, both require extending ourselves into the realm of the unknown, whether it's people, motorcycle manufacturers, or more importantly faith in something / Someone we can't see.
 

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The CEO has been committed to electric for quite a while, well before moving into the CEO position. Since buying my LW I have been saying that they need to focus on an urban/suburban demographic, and it is good to see them targeting that. The autonomy from the ICE influences/competition could be a good thing. Electric is here whether HD stays in or not, succeeds or fails. I hope that they stay.

Maybe someday the HD branded LW will be a sought after first edition...
 

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I want world peace, an end to the Chinese virus' spread, and a replacement higher capacity retro-fittable LW battery.

Oh all right then I'll settle for the battery.
 

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Oldun, that’s too funny!
But I thought we traded truth for political correctness? How could you call it the “Chinese virus”? Sure, it originated there like other deadly viruses, was kept secret for a time as it spread worldwide, and yeah many are dead and dying, but their President is a great moral leader to us all. Isn’t that what his, I mean our “leaders” and news outlets programed us to believe? Good thing people can’t be bought and there’s no evil in the world.
All that kindness and selflessness leaves more time to develop a better Livewire battery!
 

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Well... in my profession we have long called such things by their real name - Legionnaire's disease, Norwalk virus, Raynaud's phenomenon, Japanese B encephalitis, Ebola (river in Congo) / Lassa (town in Nigeria) / Zika (forest in Uganda) etc... so without meaning to cause any trouble :sneaky: I always call this the Chinese or Wuhan virus. I also note that the Chinese Govt themselves call overseas variants by their source - the UK variant, the Brazilian variant, etc. So I'm just being culturally appropriate :)(y)

I now return to our regularly scheduled programming and hope for my hair to regrow on the top of my head and the LiveWire to mutate a higher-capacity spike voltage (or is that amperage... I dunno...)
 

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Anyone remember Buell? HD does not have the money to fully commit to EV. This is just a way to separate the EV segment from the ICE segment at HD. HD has not said how much money will be committed to EV. This is a good way to separate now and hope it takes off or for an investor group to buy it.
Don't forget MV Agusta
 

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I spoke with my rep at HD this morning regarding the future of HD and Livewire. I could get no set answer wether or not HD dealers will still continue with the bike. The dealerships can opt out of the Livewire and you can be referred to a Livewire showroom, and hope there is one within the distance of a charge.
 

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HD did announce the money that would be invested in EV’s over the next several years on development. It’s on the web. The announcement came out approximately 2 months ago. No change has been announced.
 

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I've visited a few H-D dealers lately that got in on selling the LiveWire last year, and they don't seem to know anything about what's going on. Some think that LiveWire is now a completely different company, and others say that LiveWire is only going to be sold at stand alone dealers. They all seem to believe that their store won't be carrying LW anymore. One salesperson at my local H-D store (non LiveWire) said that she heard that the whole thing was being discontinued. Part of this is these people being misinformed, and part because many H-D salespeople just don't care. Even after I tell them what I've found out here and other internet research, the consensus is that they all are angry about how the dealers are being treated, and rightly so. The initial LW dealers put all the money into charging stations, training, and whatever else they were told to do, and now they are left completely in the dark about what comes next. I understand the new direction with marketing, but it seems like H-D is its own worst enemy here.
As Mac Mike alluded to above, this is why they gave up on Buell. H-D made it so difficult for the dealers to carry them, nobody really wanted to mess with them anymore.
 

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Same disappointment here and I have given a lot of thought about keeping it....I just like the thing way too much. During summer when I have to alter my commute off the highway to city streets for my 45 mile roundtrip to work, the LW is the only bike I want to ride. No heat, super slim so I can squeeze through traffic in ways that is probably only legal in CA, and just blip my way from light to light. It makes an otherwise horrendous commute actually kind of fun. Not 30K fun, but heck I have it so will enjoy it. Oh, and when it is midnight like now and I get the urge to go for a ride the family and neighbors have no idea
 

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I don't regret buying my LW at all, and it has really changed my life. Once I got the Charge Point in the garage, I went ahead and bought an electric car (Chevy Bolt). Along the way, I've learned how to map out trips for both vehicles while planning charge stops, plus learning how I can stretch out the range by taking different routes. I can never go back to a motorcycle that I have to shift gears and deal with heat coming from an engine. I'm taking my LiveWire for 10k service in the morning to the closest H-D dealer that can do that, which is 110 miles away, but I don't care. I knew I was getting into something different when I bought it, and I'm so glad I did.
 

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In the Bay Area (CA) with PG&E's rolling black outs, the local news told viewers not to charge your EV's during certain hours. Go green, CA. Good job Gov.
 
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