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Hello from Brea CA.
A week ago, I was having a regular weekend ride on my Sportster and saw a live wire.
I was impressed by its look and initial torque and had thought to sell the Sportster and buy a live wire.
I just came to this forum to know insight about this bike.
As it's an electric bike so will it be a wise decision to sell a gasoline motorcycle and buy an electric bike?
How many miles we can clock on a single charge?

Please let me know your thoughts on it.
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Welcome to the forum. I'll provide my personal experience with my bike.

First off, its one of the best bikes I've owned. That is saying something as I've probably owned over 200 bikes in my 50's years of riding and have 10 currently in my garage so to speak.

The range it has may, or may not, work for you depending on how you ride. In the city I can go about 120-140 miles on a charge. On the highway, at about 70 mph, I can go about 75-80 miles. It does support speed charging so if you find what is called a L3 charger, you can charge up totally in about an hour. To about 80% in 45 min. In mixed highway and city riding, I get about 100 miles.

It costs me about $1.50 to totally charge it up. So it is pretty cheap from that perspective to operate. No heat on a hot summer day from the motor cooking your chestnuts is a big plus for me. The almost silent nature is nice. The off the line acceleration is awesome. It brakes very well and handles nicely. It has a great headlight for night riding. The fit and finish is very good as well. It is a great conversation starter. Whenever I stop, I have people asking me about it.

The biggest issue for most is going to be if the range it has works for you or not. If it does, it can be an awesome bike. Very little maintenance is required. It is basically just a charge an go ride with off the line acceleration like a very high performance sport bike if you really want to grab a handful of throttle.

The more I ride it, the more I like it. The range works for me in about 95% of my riding scenarios now. I never tire of its acceleration. I like that I can charge it easily at home. The lack of heat is a big plus as I ride mostly in Texas and Florida and they get very hot in the summer. I like how I can ride it fast and not attract the attention of the police. I love that I can focus on the ride rather than what gear I am in. No clutch when stuck in traffic makes that a lot easier too.

Biggest issue for me is the seat is a bit too close to the footpegs so my legs feel a bit cramped at times. I put on an inflatable seat cushion and solved that. Rear shock could be better, especially on really sharp edged bumps. If I were to do a lot more highway riding, I might want more range but right now it works very well for me. If I wanted to ride a long ways I have another bike to do that.

Hope this helps.
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I'm loving mine. I've had it since Oct '19 and put nearly 20K on it.

I took it for a spin in '14 when they did a US tour with it and fell in love immediately and I've always been a loud chopper rider.

I too traded my sporty in for it:
seventy-four, 18" apes, 3ft b-bar, suicide clutch and jockey shift, 4" Frisco lift, she was a beauty!

I've modded mine to be a bit more cafe-style. dropped the bars for drag bars, moved the front signals to behind the headlight in between the tree, LED strips for night riding, paint her often for fun, removed the cowl in favor of a lightning light cover, etc. Still pluggin' away at her.

I LOVE the bike. I get roughly 140-170 miles on my rides, as I'm less of a freeway rider.
The most I've ridden (this bike) at one time is about 300+ miles in a day.

It's a different ride than prior rides we've had, but I wouldn't (say I wouldn't) get rid of it, it's just too fun!

The most I've tested the battery too is 502.3 miles (as a faux hyper-mile test.)

All-in-all, I love the bike and am VERY happy with my decision.
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Thank you very much for this much info, that is so helpful for me.
Currently, I'm using a 2018 XL883N and my daily commute is from Brea to Beaumont for the office which is around 60 miles on one side with both highway and city routes included, and I also usually go with my buddies for the ride after the off.
I do have an extra $15K (Can get another 5K if needed) in hand. So now, keeping in mind all this info, what would you suggest?

I am thinking about 2 possibilities

1. I can sell my Sportster and add the remaining amount to buy a new live wire but as mentioned above, you can expect around 100 miles in a charge so are there any commercial charging spots available?
2. I am a bit inclined towards keeping the Sportster for the office commute and getting a used live wire for the weekend ride though I have some concerns about the battery health and I don't think it would be wise to spend that much money just for weekend fun? and what about the resale? Will it depreciate a lot?

What would be a good price for a used one and if we can check how much battery life is left in the pack?

Do we have some aftermarket luggage support? I am a luggage guy and so far, I could not find any luggage for it. I am using a magnetic tank bag on my Harley can I put it on livewire?
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Thank you very much for this much info, that is so helpful for me.
Currently, I'm using a 2018 XL883N and my daily commute is from Brea to Beaumont for the office which is around 60 miles on one side with both highway and city routes included, and I also usually go with my buddies for the ride after the off.
I do have an extra $15K (Can get another 5K if needed) in hand. So now, keeping in mind all this info, what would you suggest?

I am thinking about 2 possibilities

1. I can sell my Sportster and add the remaining amount to buy a new live wire but as mentioned above, you can expect around 100 miles in a charge so are there any commercial charging spots available?
2. I am a bit inclined towards keeping the Sportster for the office commute and getting a used live wire for the weekend ride though I have some concerns about the battery health and I don't think it would be wise to spend that much money just for weekend fun? and what about the resale? Will it depreciate a lot?

What would be a good price for a used one and if we can check how much battery life is left in the pack?

Do we have some aftermarket luggage support? I am a luggage guy and so far, I could not find any luggage for it. I am using a magnetic tank bag on my Harley can I put it on livewire?
if you work a full day at the office, you should be able to plug into an outlet and be ready for the ride home, no problem.

battery health is just about keeping it in a good state of charge (soc), between 30-70%.

check out plugshare for charging stations, in CA you should have absolutely no problem finding many fast chargers.

I don't see it depreciating much 'cause it's such a popular brand (HDMC), but that's all in who wants it.
I see it going up in value, but I also don't plan on getting rid of it until I can't keep two wheels up... then I'll donate it, unless the government keeps pushing me down, financially.

I don't do luggage, I prefer a backpack... so I can't help you in that one.
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It would be hard for me to go back to the 883 if I had the LW. If you can charge at work, it is a no brainer. I'd sell the Sportster, charge at work and enjoy the LW.

Almost all bikes are depreciating assets. IF, someone comes out with something remarkably better than the LW, it will likely impact the value of the LW. I don't see that happening anytime soon. Maybe if the bike has a real world highway range (of 75 mph) of 150-200 miles but nobody is there yet. The Energica Experia is likely the closest.
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I would definitely use it for commuting if I was you, and plug in all day at work. In fact that's my plan once the weather gets nicer. My commute is only 40kms but why use my electricity at home if I can just charge at work for free. :)
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Well... if it would charge at work much faster, it would be great. At my current energy costs of $0.10 per kWh, I might save 70-80 cents if I charged for while I was at work. I think in my typical usage scenario, I get about 8 mile of range added for every hour of charging for either L1 or L2.

That is the reason I ordered the Setec charger so I can do "slow" L3 at home. I don't want to leave the battery at a high SoC (state of charge) when not needed as that accelerates battery degradation. Given the slow L1/L2 charge rate, you almost have no choice but to keep it pretty close to fully charged. I live in a hot summertime climate and high average SoC combined with high temps is the quickest way to kill your battery.

I can leave it at about 50% SoC and with the L3 charger charge quickly enough to be useful to bump up my charge level when I need it. I can leave it at that lower SoC level and minimize the harm to my battery by charging up just before I leave.
Well... if it would charge at work much faster, it would be great. At my current energy costs of $0.10 per kWh, I might save 70-80 cents if I charged for while I was at work. I think in my typical usage scenario, I get about 8 mile of range added for every hour of charging for either L1 or L2.

That is the reason I ordered the Setec charger so I can do "slow" L3 at home. I don't want to leave the battery at a high SoC (state of charge) when not needed as that accelerates battery degradation. Given the slow L1/L2 charge rate, you almost have no choice but to keep it pretty close to fully charged. I live in a hot summertime climate and high average SoC combined with high temps is the quickest way to kill your battery.

I can leave it at about 50% SoC and with the L3 charger charge quickly enough to be useful to bump up my charge level when I need it. I can leave it at that lower SoC level and minimize the harm to my battery by charging up just before I leave.
What charger is this you are talking about? Got a link? How fast will it charge the ELW?
This pretty much covers it all.

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