No more silence - Soundbox installed
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There are some on YouTube:Could you make a new video showing us the different sounds please? I think we would all like to hear the different sounds.
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I am sorry I think this is the silliest thing I have ever seen. So we are gonna create noise pollution just as we are at the juncture of getting rid of it? I can maybe get it for the sight impaired on slow speed streets or reverse but this is crazy above 20 mph. The kind of volume you need to create at that speed is way more of a nuisance then a safety device. Almost all cyclists and pedestrians have headphones/iems on these days. I have commuted thousands of miles on a bicycle. I do note when a large vehicle is approaching behind me But I would never assume that quiet was lack of traffic.
What this is suggesting taken to the rational conclusion is air horns on every ev going off all the time. It is just wrong headed. You kill someone with your car you are no more or less responsible then if your car or bike is loud. It is who had the right of way and who was breaking the traffic code. It would make more sense to argue for electronic speed limiters that detected the speed limit and just enforced it. This is just silly.
What this is suggesting taken to the rational conclusion is air horns on every ev going off all the time. It is just wrong headed. You kill someone with your car you are no more or less responsible then if your car or bike is loud. It is who had the right of way and who was breaking the traffic code. It would make more sense to argue for electronic speed limiters that detected the speed limit and just enforced it. This is just silly.
I think it is safe to say that not everyone is willing to shell out 2,5 kEuro for some noise gadget* like this, even considering that the Livewire is a rather expensive toy to begin with. (*I would consider this more of a joke than a practical safety device on a motorcycle. If this were motivated by real safety concerns, you would see much more riders rolling about in the brightest hi-viz gear, given the near sound proof noise isolation of current cars and the number of people in traffic wearing headphones.)
In my very densely populated rural area (with actually rather little traffic) and lots of motorcycles on any nice weather weekend, the Livewire is a bit of a solution to stay under the radar of the anti-motorcycle noise crowd that is only one step away of ralleying up on motorcyclists with pitchforks and torches - and a correspondingly motivated/instigated constabluary.
To avoid those “Kontrollgruppen Motorrad“ (yes, it is as bad as it sounds: These are crowds of 10-15 police officers, all in black gear, together with hired technical specialists form the German TÜV, ganging up specifically just on motorcyclists. Any modification not adhereing to German „Straßenverkehrszulassungsregeln“ (yep, it is a German word. No wonder Mark Twain was making fun of us.) can have you and your motorcycle stranded on the side of the road by order of these guys and yourself calling for a taxi and a towing crew.)
I would rather go for a full stealth approach and have the Livewire even more silent, wearing gray/black street camouflage and even go for anti radar coating (if that were available), than adding 2,5 grands worth of equipment shouting “I want to get in trouble with the police.“
In my very densely populated rural area (with actually rather little traffic) and lots of motorcycles on any nice weather weekend, the Livewire is a bit of a solution to stay under the radar of the anti-motorcycle noise crowd that is only one step away of ralleying up on motorcyclists with pitchforks and torches - and a correspondingly motivated/instigated constabluary.
To avoid those “Kontrollgruppen Motorrad“ (yes, it is as bad as it sounds: These are crowds of 10-15 police officers, all in black gear, together with hired technical specialists form the German TÜV, ganging up specifically just on motorcyclists. Any modification not adhereing to German „Straßenverkehrszulassungsregeln“ (yep, it is a German word. No wonder Mark Twain was making fun of us.) can have you and your motorcycle stranded on the side of the road by order of these guys and yourself calling for a taxi and a towing crew.)
I would rather go for a full stealth approach and have the Livewire even more silent, wearing gray/black street camouflage and even go for anti radar coating (if that were available), than adding 2,5 grands worth of equipment shouting “I want to get in trouble with the police.“
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I like the idea of true safety in traffic including electronic speed limits. However in the EU it’s mandatory for EV and hybrids to produce noise (Electric and hybrid cars: new rules on noise emitting to protect vulnerable road users) up to 20kmh and in reverse gear. I like to be detectable, when I leave the parking garage and already had some dangerous encounters with pedestrians, who just did not hear me. I love the possibility to switch it on and off within milliseconds and to choose from different sounds.
I purchased three different outdoor speakers at about $75 for all three (quiet loud) and placed them in the hollow below my seat (so the sound was projecting out, not blocked by the seat or plastic) and I will say, you can hear it at a stop great, but as soon as you get going, I can hardly hear it. I can hear my bike's own whir better, and then at freeway speeds they are both gone from tires and other noise.
I suppose it could be helpful coming to a slow, but our bikes already have a noise all the way to stop... so I don't think it's helped bring attention to me at all.
Just thinking out loud, that the speaker(s) I got were sufficient for "fun", but not at over $2K
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I always wanted something with a good fit and easy to use… would buy it again…
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I did ask the same question… answer was no …
I'm going to take a stab and say, it's probably 'cause of the throttle connection to make the sound(s) increase and decrease.
'magine, you're riding down the road and for some reason you can't get your awesome tunes to stop sounding like chipmunks.
then, you slow for a jam and it starts s-o-u-n-d-i-n-g l-i-k-e t-h-i-s (all slow, like it's running out of juice.)
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