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Honestly I rode 650 ish miles this weekend. Charged 10 times. The only issues was when there was a queue or system needed a reboot or not enough locations.

Honestly if we had 2x the locations and 2x the units I wouldn't have really wanted to ride longer or worried. It was mostly just the sections where there weren't options.

The stress of being on a schedule and counting on an open charger. Waited 15 minutes and 40 minutes. Got my charges covered by the vendor a couple times. Road some fun parts of I5 in Southern Oregon with minimal traffic. Some great mountain roads to the coast. And well the 101 is so lovely in many places. My butt was done far before my battery in most sections.

The quality of the locations is hugely variable. Ones with nice facilities I tried to come back to and and spend some cash at the restaurants and markets that hosted them.
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Sounds like an awesome weekend. I'm with you. By the time I need a charge I'm more than ready for a stretch and a bio break.
Leg 1 Home 100% to Salem OR EA
Total paid: $2.88 Plan: N/A Charging pricing: $0.48/kWh (pre-tax) : 81% Total energy delivered: 6.7940 kWh Energy Billed: 6.0000 kWh Power Type: DC Max charging speed: 17.00 kW Charge Start Time: 8:14:55 AM Charge Stop Time: 8:44:37 AM Charging time: 00:29:19
Leg 2 Salem Eugene
Charged at my friend on a very thick long extension cord L1.
Leg 3 Eugene Sutherlin OR
Total paid: $6.24 Plan: N/A Charging pricing: $0.48/kWh (pre-tax) End state of charge: 90% Total energy delivered: 13.3000 kWh Energy Billed: 13.0000 kWh Power Type: DC Max charging speed: 19.00 kW Charge Start Time: 9:15:14 AM Charge Stop Time: 10:09:53 AM Charging time: 00:54:27
Leg 4 Sutherlin Roseberg OR
Date: 2023/04/28, 10:35 AM Charging Site: WCEH Roseburg Payment: Google Pay Total: 1.95 USD Duration: 0 hr 29 min Energy Delivered: 3.981 kWh
Leg 5 Roseberg to Azalea Treehouse Air B&B L2 - L3 6kWh 30 minutes
Leg 6 Treehouse to Grants Pass
Total paid: $1.92 Plan: N/A Charging pricing: $0.48/kWh (pre-tax) 0 End state of charge: 66% Total energy delivered: 6.1860 kWh Energy Billed: 6.0000 kWh Power Type: DC Max charging speed: 19.00 kW Charge Start Time: 2:06:57 PM Charge Stop Time: 2:31:22 PM Charging time: 00:24:03
Leg 7 Grants Pass to Ashland
L1 fill at hotel from outside plug.
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Leg 1 Ashland to Grants Pass
Total paid: $3.36 Plan: N/A Charging pricing: $0.48/kWh (pre-tax)End state of charge: 79% Total energy delivered: 7.5020 kWh Energy Billed: 7.0000 kWh Power Type: DC Max charging speed: 19.00 kW Charge Start Time: 8:18:16 AM Charge Stop Time: 8:48:47 AM Charging time: 00:30:28
Leg 2 Grants Pass to Canyonville OR Seven Feathers truckstop
45 minute wait. Free EVCS charge to 80% 90 minutes ish
Leg 3 Canyonville to Sutherlin Shutdown mid charge caught it after 10 minutes
Total paid: $1.92 Plan: N/A Charging pricing: $0.48/kWh (pre-tax) End state of charge: 41% Total energy delivered: 4.1160 kWh Energy Billed: 4.0000 kWh Power Type: DC Max charging speed: 19.00 kW Charge Start Time: 11:17:27 AM Charge Stop Time: 11:31:44 AM Charging time: 00:13:17 Grace period: 00:10 min
Total paid: $2.40 Plan: N/A Charging pricing: $0.48/kWh (pre-tax) End state of charge: 81% Total energy delivered: 5.9520 kWh Energy Billed: 5.0000 kWh Power Type: DC Max charging speed: 19.00 kW Charge Start Time: 11:43:47 AM Charge Stop Time: 12:10:32 PM Charging time: 00:26:37
Leg 4 Sutherlin to Reedsport EVCS charger was hung. Took 10-15 minutes to get it rebooted on the phone. Paid on the phone.
2%-78% Made me late for lunch. Had to order and ask them to set it outside. Setup a gourgous ride north through the twisties.
Leg 5 Reedsport to Yachats. EVCS charger was offline but free. Stopped once mid charge. Ate lunch on the ocean rested at the park. 90 minutes.
15-80%
Leg 6 Yachats to Otis Market Chargepoint meh. 60 minutes to 100% but cute performance tracking.
OtisPACIFIC POWER / OTIS DCFC #4Pacificorp - 7 EV Charging StationsPaid55m 10s10.290$3.09Details

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Leg 7 Otis Home 80 miles. Arrived 15% or so.

732 ish miles $21.81 plus some friendly plug time.
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Needed 100% this last hop to get all the way home. I was done. Though I should probably have skipped that last 10 minutes and just had another pee break. The chargers were mostly singles between there and home and didn't want to worry about it. It was an 80 mile hop. I think driving 55-60 with very few accelerations I could have made 95 miles.
Honestly I rode 650 ish miles this weekend. Charged 10 times. The only issues was when there was a queue or system needed a reboot or not enough locations.

Honestly if we had 2x the locations and 2x the units I wouldn't have really wanted to ride longer or worried. It was mostly just the sections where there weren't options.

The stress of being on a schedule and counting on an open charger. Waited 15 minutes and 40 minutes. Got my charges covered by the vendor a couple times. Road some fun parts of I5 in Southern Oregon with minimal traffic. Some great mountain roads to the coast. And well the 101 is so lovely in many places. My butt was done far before my battery in most sections.

The quality of the locations is hugely variable. Ones with nice facilities I tried to come back to and and spend some cash at the restaurants and markets that hosted them.
I just make a similar trip on the atlantic side of Florida. One of my observations is that this is the summer of capacity crunch for high speed chargers. Most everybody I ran into only had their car for a few weeks. I tried this particular route and failed two times before due to chargers not working well with the LW (mainly EA stations) and none of the FPL stations at the turnpike service stations being compatible with the LW and the fact that none of the HD dealerships had working CP stations any more. The one complete hole in the wasteland of no chargers was ultimately salvaged by one of the only 7 Eleven charging stations in the state. It was an ABB charger and worked flawlessly and was dirt cheap. It cost about $2 for a charge of 90%.

The thing about capacity is we are part of the problem. All the new cars charge at a minimum of 150 kW and some up to the CCS standard of 350. We charge at nominally 18 and quickly are at 10. We occupy a limited resource 35 times longer than a modern car. So, our hour of charge could have been accomplished in two minutes by a modern car. The feds should outlaw CCS sockets on vehicles not capable of using the standard of 350 kW. All gas tanks must accept the federal rate of 10 gallons per minute at a as pump. This charger landscape is the wild wild west.
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Hmm interesting take miles per hour is close though. I wonder how hard that upgrade is technically. It would make no difference to me to charge faster. I need more places. I will be waiting behind the car or truck pulling at 150 or 350 for an hour.
All the places in my province and my neighboring provinces charge per minute instead of per kWh. This needs to change fast especially since often they report that they are 150-250kW chargers but they end up charging at a much lower rate closer to 50kW. Not a problem for me on the ELW but for those in the Ford Lightnings and the other fast charging vehicles they are getting ripped off big time! Hopefully this changes soon.
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