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Agree with his logic or not? I think he's flawed, but we'll get into that later ;)

http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2014/09/01/heres-why-harley-davidson-wont-mass-produce-an-ele.aspx

Right now, it's a prototype, and further research and development would likely improve all that. And Harley's entrance would certainly raise the industry's profile. Zero Motorcycles said that on the day Harley unveiled LiveWire, traffic to its website doubled.

Beyond the meager market for an electric motorcycle overall, a Harley-Davidson electric bike already seems like a nonstarter because its core customer and the so-called outreach ones both still buy into the aura and image of its loud and proud heritage. Both groups have proved they largely still want the traditional styling too, and for that reason a mass-produced Harley e-bike is a nonstarter.
 

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Even if it doesn't happen soon enough, at least with the way the industry is growing, it's something bound to happen eventually. HD did want to make it a point to be one of the first to claim being the first so i'm sure they really want to tap into it.
 

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Yea I think that it will be built eventually. A number of years down the road it would happen.

By that time the technology should also have improved making the range and charging time better.

So I think that Harley-Davidson is thinking more medium term with the Livewire. Like 4-7 years from now.
 

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That along with the infrastructure to support these vehicles.
Until it reaches that stage, then maybe i'll consider it, rather wait for it all to develop enough and then buy in... rather than being some super early adopter.
 

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I guess in the future there will be a much bigger electric car infrastructure. That should apply to bikes as well. I figure that they will make the chargers standard so that you can recharge your car or bike at any charging station that exists.
 

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developing the infrastructure is depedent on developing a pay structure. once its determined how elkectricity can be priced and sold like gasoline we'll see things developing rapidly
 

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I guess in the future there will be a much bigger electric car infrastructure. That should apply to bikes as well. I figure that they will make the chargers standard so that you can recharge your car or bike at any charging station that exists.
It would be best if they have some standard charger. If not then car makers might have to include an adapter, or you just buy an OEM one or aftermarket.
 

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It would be best if they have some standard charger. If not then car makers might have to include an adapter, or you just buy an OEM one or aftermarket.
I guess an adapter wouldn't be the worst thing, but a standard charger would be optimal. I am holding out hope for that since the car industry seems to cooperate pretty well, but taking chargers from the mobile phone industry as an example makes me worried.
 

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Again, its not about the physical charger, its about the cost structure. Right now most places are allowing you to charge up for free, as more and more EV's come online that is going to stop, in fact I think you wont see more EV's come online until it can be figured out how to charge at the 'pump' for an e-gallon.

No one is going to invest if they don't know how to get their money out. Remember the electric car is not going to change the system, its just going to shift focus...
 

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Again, its not about the physical charger, its about the cost structure. Right now most places are allowing you to charge up for free, as more and more EV's come online that is going to stop, in fact I think you wont see more EV's come online until it can be figured out how to charge at the 'pump' for an e-gallon.

No one is going to invest if they don't know how to get their money out. Remember the electric car is not going to change the system, its just going to shift focus...
Perhaps instead of being charged for an e-gallon, you would just pay a yearly subscription service that would allow you to use whichever charger network as much as you want.
 

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Perhaps instead of being charged for an e-gallon, you would just pay a yearly subscription service that would allow you to use whichever charger network as much as you want.
I could see this happening but then someone who doesn't drive at all would pay the same as someone who drives constantly. There could be more complexities to the pricing structure though.
 

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Perhaps instead of being charged for an e-gallon, you would just pay a yearly subscription service that would allow you to use whichever charger network as much as you want.
if in home hydro doesnt work that way no way transportation will work that way. Logic...
 
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