This thread is not about bashing the brand or live wire but my point of view from a potential new buyer on why I won't be buying one. My positives for the bike is I really like the styling. I love that it was a harley branded motorcycle with their name of the bike. The seating was perfect for me, the styling, the overall looks. I didn't test drive one but I did sit on one and its a beauty. I would have paid cash today to take it home without blinking an eye if not for a couple deal breakers.
1. Unreliable charging. I've heard this from several videos, and many forum post. I can't have a bike that simply has unreliable charging. Thats stupid for the amount I'm paying. I don't need an app that tells me it is not charging. If I plug it in, I expect it to charge. Period. After all it is an electric bike.
2. No Level 2 charger. Everybody else has it, I've got 220. Why no level 2 charge? I'd pay for this if it was an option but Other mfg have level 2 charging without paying extra. Reminder, this is an electric motorcycle. Asking me to go to a level 3 charge station and wait an hour is silly. I mean sure its nice to have but I have a 220 outlet right next to the bike!
3. 12v battery? Are you serious.. This thing has a huge battery. A simple DC-DC converter should take care of any 12V needs. I've read all too many stories on this forum now about the OBC being bad or 12v battery is bad.. But mostly it seems like they just don't know what the issue is. Why complicate things, simply put the DC-DC back on the bike and skip the 12V battery. That 12V battery can render the bike dead and unreliable. Now I have to put a battery tender on an electric motorcycle? Ok if not tender then I must leave the level 1 charge cable connected to the bike when not using it ?? Rediculous.
The bike has so many potential issues that as a new potential buyer its just not worth taking the risk. Even if the dealer network is superb. Even if I lived next door to one. Why am I spending all this money just to have my bike at the dealership fixing problems that shouldn't even be issue. Anyway thats my minor rant, hopefully it helps some people. I will revisit purchasing a livewire if these things ever get sorted out. Hopefully it doesn't get discontinued. But with honda, yamaha, etc coming onboard the electric band wagon, livewire better get their act together quickly. As for me, I'm about to put a deposit down on an Energetica ego. Actually any energetica I can get my hands on really. I just need a beautiful and reliable bike. The live wire atleast got the looks correct.. Now it just needs to execute on being a reliable bike.
1. Unreliable charging. I've heard this from several videos, and many forum post. I can't have a bike that simply has unreliable charging. Thats stupid for the amount I'm paying. I don't need an app that tells me it is not charging. If I plug it in, I expect it to charge. Period. After all it is an electric bike.
2. No Level 2 charger. Everybody else has it, I've got 220. Why no level 2 charge? I'd pay for this if it was an option but Other mfg have level 2 charging without paying extra. Reminder, this is an electric motorcycle. Asking me to go to a level 3 charge station and wait an hour is silly. I mean sure its nice to have but I have a 220 outlet right next to the bike!
3. 12v battery? Are you serious.. This thing has a huge battery. A simple DC-DC converter should take care of any 12V needs. I've read all too many stories on this forum now about the OBC being bad or 12v battery is bad.. But mostly it seems like they just don't know what the issue is. Why complicate things, simply put the DC-DC back on the bike and skip the 12V battery. That 12V battery can render the bike dead and unreliable. Now I have to put a battery tender on an electric motorcycle? Ok if not tender then I must leave the level 1 charge cable connected to the bike when not using it ?? Rediculous.
The bike has so many potential issues that as a new potential buyer its just not worth taking the risk. Even if the dealer network is superb. Even if I lived next door to one. Why am I spending all this money just to have my bike at the dealership fixing problems that shouldn't even be issue. Anyway thats my minor rant, hopefully it helps some people. I will revisit purchasing a livewire if these things ever get sorted out. Hopefully it doesn't get discontinued. But with honda, yamaha, etc coming onboard the electric band wagon, livewire better get their act together quickly. As for me, I'm about to put a deposit down on an Energetica ego. Actually any energetica I can get my hands on really. I just need a beautiful and reliable bike. The live wire atleast got the looks correct.. Now it just needs to execute on being a reliable bike.